Caffeine is a part of our daily routine. From that morning cup of Earl Grey to an evening espresso, days are stimulated by cups of coffee and tea. Over the past year, getting that fix is roasting your wallet.

At Detroit Sip, a coffee shop in the city’s Bagley Neighborhood, owner Jovana Fudge has lent out the space for a campaign kickoff event. She and two employees are working to keep everyone happy and caffeinated.

Fudge says business has been a little inconsistent.

“My God, it’s up and down, to be honest, just trying to find creative ways to bring people in,” Fudge said.

“Everybody loves coffee.”

The National Coffee Association says two thirds of American adults drink coffee at a clip of 3 cups per day.

Fudge, whose day job is as an assistant Macomb County prosecutor, says money is tight.

“I don’t really know I’m going to try to make it through the end of the year. I have a job that helps fund the dream, and I need to keep my employees happy,” Fudge said. “So really, just trying to do a balancing act.”

There’s a lot of that going around within metro Detroit’s coffee community, and the industry as a whole.

Craig Batory, owner of Craig’s Coffee in Detroit’s resurgent Chinatown neighborhood, feels that way. He says prices are up 25-50% over the past year.

“Yeah, I’ve had to raise prices a couple of times in the last year, and that’s just been sort of reflective on the rising cost of coffee,” Batory said. “And that’s not even talking about the tariffs, right?”

About those tariffs, the biggie for coffee drinkers is a Trump Administration levy on imports from Brazil. The South American country is the leading provider of coffee beans in the U.S.

Batory says he’s covered—for now.

“I still have inventory from Brazil, but when that runs out, we’ll have to either figure out a different sourcing option or set our prices accordingly, based on the cost of the coffee rising by 40% the last year and the 50% tariff,” Batory said.

“So you’re looking at potentially a 90% increase.”

Not just tariffs

Coffee prices were rising before the on-again-off-again tariffs.

Frank Lanzkron-Tamarazo moves about 60,000 pounds of beans each year through Chazzano Coffee Roasters in Berkley. He’s spent years developing relationships and sourcing his beans directly from farms.

“So the tariffs really aren’t the problem, and they’re only a temporary problem,” Lanzkron-Tamarazo said.

Turns out there are a bunch of factors that go into that cup o’ joe.

“There are not enough truck drivers, there are not enough workers in in warehouses. There are not enough people picking coffee beans, and there are not enough containers to put the coffee beans in,” Lanzkron-Tamarazo said.

That’s on top of changes to growing conditions due to climate change and changing political climates in coffee growing nations. At Chazzano, that’s translated into a $2-3 per pound increase.

Lanzkron-Tamarazzo says after 15 years in the business he’s used to the ups and downs.

“I lived through a time when coffee prices were unnaturally low, just maybe like three or four years ago, where it was so low that I was worried about the farmers, whether they’re doing well enough during that time, it was so incredibly low,” Lanzkron-Tamarazo said.

So while the tariffs aren’t the focus for rising coffee prices, Craig Batory says there is some concern about the levies changing the habits for coffee growers and importers.

“Tariffs have made certain countries sort of shift where they’re selling their coffee. So a lot of countries like Brazil might start shifting their sales from the United States to China, because a lot of Asian countries are starting to consume more coffee.”

Those Asian countries also consume a lot of tea—which has largely avoided the price increases.

Though there’s one big exception according to Jeff Urcheck, a Detroit-based importer of high-end teas for restaurants and coffee shops.

“The past few years have really skyrocketed matcha, in particular, into everybody’s social media algorithm because it’s been such a huge trending health and fitness focused product as an alternative to coffee,” Urcheck said.

Through his company, Hamtramck-based Noka Imports, Urcheck says the politics—even outside of tariffs—hurts his business.

“So it’s not really viable for us to deal with tea from China, because there hasn’t been an administration in the past like, well, frankly, during my entire lifetime, who’s been amenable to non-aggressive foreign policy when it comes to China,” Urcheck said.

Urcheck says America First attitudes don’t work for things that won’t grow in the U.S.

“If you’re having a bunch of inconsistent—and frankly maladaptive—trade agreements that are just there to be some kind of a bullying flex on a market that is increasingly reliant on globalization and global trade, you’re kind of putting yourself in a losing position,” Urcheck said.

“We can’t get or make a lot of stuff here. We don’t have the climate for it. We don’t have the natural resources for it. So we are we have to import a lot of stuff.”

So while the initial impact of seemingly arbitrary and constantly changing tariffs isn’t the biggest driving factor for prices it’s still having an impact.

“Smaller businesses, including the ones that I work with… just everybody’s been really kind of stalled and nervous about how these tariffs are going to affect the consumer demand, but also the longevity of their own businesses,” Urcheck said.

Getting creative

Even through this time of higher prices, there’s a thought that independent roasters and importers can provide something that chains like Dunkin’ and Starbucks cannot.

“I think that consumers are going to start being a lot more thoughtful about how they’re spending their money. So the focus right now is to provide a good quality bean, a good quality cup of coffee. And, you know, focus on what our messaging is like. We provide sustainable, traceable coffee, we roast it with care, and we want to make sure that our consumers are have something that’s enjoyable for them to drink,” Batory said.

At Chazzano, Frank Lanzkron-Tamarazo ships out coffee beans to every state in the nation. He feels like he’s threading the needle when it comes to prices.

“There’s an axiom that if you raise your prices and everyone complains, then it’s too high, and if you raise your prices and and no one complains, then it’s too low, and a couple people complain then it’s perfect. And unfortunately for the consumer, no one has complained.”

Back at Detroit Sip, that’s something Jovana Fudge has been thinking about even as she’s been hesitant to adapt to the current coffee market.

“I haven’t raised my prices really like I need to, because I have to balance my customer base and what’s happening in terms of inflation, the increased prices, the tariffs, hoping that they will reach some sense of normalcy before, you know, passing that cost on to the customer. So for right now, I’m eating it,” Fudge said.

Since the pandemic, consumers have been eating the cost of higher food prices too making this rise in coffee prices even tougher to swallow.

Michigan’s cannabis industry has become one of the largest in the nation. Last year alone, people here bought over $3 billion worth of legal weed, second only to California.

Now, the state wants to take that success and pave roads with it. State lawmakers just passed a new 24 percent wholesale tax in the state budget, set to begin in January. It will raise an estimated $420 million a year for transportation projects.

Supporters call it smart budgeting, “pot for potholes.” But others see a troubling shift: a young industry, still finding its footing, being asked to carry the weight of Michigan’s infrastructure.

The Michigan Cannabis Industry Association is taking the debate to court. It has filed a complaint arguing the new wholesale tax unlawfully alters a voter-initiated cannabis law under the state constitution.

Underlying inequalities

There is also a deeper tension. For decades, Black people in Michigan were nearly four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than white people.

When voters approved the legalization of recreational cannabis in 2018, it came with a promise: that the people most harmed by prohibition would share in the new prosperity.

This new tax could test that promise if higher costs push small, Black- and brown-owned businesses out of the market.

So today, The Metro explores these tensions and concerns through the perspective of people in the cannabis industry.

First, we hear from Jamie Lowell, a longtime cannabis advocate. He’ll help us step back and learn: how does Michigan’s market compare with other states?

Then we turn to Al Williams, owner of DaCut dispensaries, and president of the Detroit Cannabis Industry Association.

Listen to The Metro weekdays from 10 a.m. to noon ET on 101.9 FM and streaming on demand.

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Last month, I got the chance to interview Dr. Jane Goodall ahead of her sold-out speaking engagement at the Fisher Theatre.

The ethologist and conservationist died at the age of 91 on Wednesday, according to a statement from the Jane Goodall Institute.

She opened up her two-night stand with a warm embrace of the city: “I think Detroit is happy I’m here,” she joked, to applause and laughter.

Dr. Goodall’s life has a lot to unpack. Throughout her nearly 90-minute time on the stage, her insatiable curiosity for the world was on full display. 

From her time forging a reputation as the world’s foremost expert and advocate for chimpanzees after spending decades studying them in the wild in Tanzania’s Gombe Stream National Park to her global conservation efforts today, she approached each topic with detail and grace; like someone who was clearly not done doing the work she had dedicated her life to.

It’s a story of inspiration, which Dr. Goodall used to help reassure the next generation that there’s still work to be done.

“Go to your community and what you care about,” Dr. Goodall told me during our interview pre-show. “Get involved. If you want to make a difference, you can in your community. It’ll make you feel good. It’ll inspire other people.”

You can read my full interview with the late Dr. Goodall below, and listen to it above—including Dr. Goodall’s attempt to teach me how to “pant-hoot,” a noise that chimpanzees use to identify themselves to other chimps in the wild.

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Ryan Patrick Hooper: You’re holding a stuffed animal. Tell me about this.

Jane Goodall: This is Mr. H. He’s 35 years old, given to me by a man called Gary Horn, who went blind when he was 21 in the US Marines decided to become a magician. Children don’t realize he’s blind, and then he’ll say, “Something may happen in your life. Never give up. There’s always a way forward.”

So he thought he was giving me a stuffed chimpanzee for my birthday, and I made him hold a tail. Gary, chimps don’t have tails. So he said, “never mind, take him where you go. You know my spirit’s with you.” So he’s an example of the indomitable human spirit.

Ryan Patrick Hooper: And I know these have been part of you talking to the next generation, the youth about conservation and the work that still needs to be done still.

Jane Goodall: It needs to be done more than ever before. We are continually destroying the natural world—and not only are we part of it, we depend on it. The food, water, fresh air, clothes, everything. But we depend on healthy ecosystems and one by one by one, we are destroying them.

Ryan Patrick Hooper: People right now, I think feel a little hopeless. I talk to people a lot, “what can I do, what can still be done?” I’m sure you’ve had moments in your career where you’ve felt that way, but you didn’t stop. So what would you wanna say to people that are feeling lost, confused, not so hopeful?

Jane Goodall: I speak to hundreds of them because they all come and say that to me and I say, you know, we have an expression. “Think globally, act locally.” It’s the wrong way around because if you think globally, you become depressed, you can’t help it. Now it’s grim time we’re living in, so, but go to your, in your community, what do you care about there? Maybe you don’t like the letter, maybe you don’t want the the city council to build yet another supermarket.

See what you can do about it. Get people to help you. You find you make a difference that makes you feel good, so then you want to make a bigger difference. Then you inspire more people and then you realize around the world there are people just like me, and then you dare think globally.

Ryan Patrick Hooper: How have you and your relationship changed with these efforts? Because I’m sure you felt very strong and ready to go when you were younger, how has that evolved as you’ve gotten older—with your relationship, really with the natural world and the work you’re doing?

Jane Goodall: Well, you know, when I was little, I wanted to do nothing except live in Africa and study animals. And I did that for many years.

And then when I realized the plight of chimps across Africa, numbers dropping forests being destroyed, um. I realized that I needed to leave Gombe, a place I love and see what I could do. And so that led to the Jane Goodall Institute starting a program to alleviate poverty and the people who were cutting down the trees just to make some money from charcoal or timber or something like that.

And that program is working. It’s now in six African countries where different chapters of JGI work to conserve and study chimpanzees.

Ryan Patrick Hooper: What would be that one message you would want to give to people to keep that hope up as they deal with climate change and a lot of regulation, especially here in the United States, being rolled back beyond.

Just think locally what? What is a piece of advice that can maybe give us some fuel to keep fighting like you are?

Jane Goodall: Well, we have a program for young people from kindergarten through university called Roots and Shoots. Which began with 12 high school students in Tanzania. It’s now in 76 countries with members from kindergarten through university.

And the main message every single day you live, you make some kind of impact. You get to choose what sort of impact you make, and that’s a message for all of us. We all make a difference every day, and by making the right choices. What do you buy? How was it made? Did it harm the environment? Was it cruel to animals like factory farm?

Is it cheap ’cause of unfair wages? Then look for a more ethical alternative, and it might cost a bit more, but you will value it more and waste less.

Ryan Patrick Hooper: Tell me a little bit about what goes into these talks and what people can expect.

Jane Goodall: Well, what people can expect is a sort of look back over 91 years, what’s changed?

We are living through dark times. People are losing hope. Why should we have hope? How can we have hope? And also, in between all of that, it’s, you know, we, we need a new attitude to the environment. We need to understand where part of it and depend on it. We need to understand that animals like us have personalities, minds, and emotions.

We need to start thinking about how we treat them in the wild and domestic animals. We need to think how eating a lot of meat is destroying the environment all over the world. Because these billions of animals in factory farms have to be fed. Huge areas of land are cleared to grow food for them. More food is grown for animal than for starving people, which is shocking.

And water. It takes a lot of water to change plant-animal protein. And they all produce methane gas in their digestion. And that’s a very virulent greenhouse gas. So, you know, I think the main thing is for people to start thinking. About their own environmental footprint, what they can do, the choices they make each day.

Ryan Patrick Hooper: So much of the work has been holding a mirror up to ourselves and our relationship with the natural world as well as chimps and other animals. Yes. Relationship. What can we take away today from chumps? Is there a lesson we need to be thinking about?

Jane Goodall: Well, there’s a lesson in the way that the mothers treat their young. The mothers, the good mothers have the same quality my mother had. They’re supportive of their young ones, and because we’ve now been studying them for 65 years, we know that the chimps who had supportive mothers never mind whether they were high ranking or low ranking. If they supported their child, then the child will grow up to be a better mother.

And if a male, a higher position in the male hierarchy. We can also learn that they’re pretty good at resolving conflict. And we can also realize, which is a bit of a shock, but they have a dark side, can be brutal, aggressive, and kill, but they can also be compassionate and and altruistic.

Ryan Patrick Hooper: That’s in all of us. Hopefully

Jane Goodall: That’s the point. We, they’re just like us. We have a dark side. We have a lighter side, we have a different kind of intellect. We should be able to suppress that dark, aggressive side. We are not doing a very good job right now.

Ryan Patrick Hooper: I love that… And I was tipped off that you can perform something called a pant-hoot?

Jane Goodall: Mm-hmm.

Ryan Patrick Hooper: What, what is this? Explain this and, show it to me if you can.

Jane Goodall: You mean listen to it? I can’t show you.

Ryan Patrick Hooper: You can show me, but we can hear it on the radio.

Jane Goodall: Yeah. Well, chimps don’t live in a group. They live in scattered units, which sometimes come together. And so they need to maintain contact with each other.

And so each chimp has an individual pant-hoot. So if you hear it on the other side of the valley, you know, oh, there’s mom. So [performs pant-hoot]

Ryan Patrick Hooper: Dr. Jane Goodall, thank you so much. Thank you.