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The Metro: Talking to strangers is good for your health, research shows

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Think about the last place you were in public. It could have been the grocery store, on the bus, or in the waiting room at the dentist.

If you did manage to strike up a conversation with a stranger, how did it make you feel? While it might be uncomfortable, it turns out there are benefits to connecting with strangers, people you may not know. 

There is mounting research that suggests that having real-life interactions with other people is good for our health and happiness. In 2023, former Surgeon General Vivek Murthy issued an advisory warning that isolation poses a health risk equivalent to smoking 15 cigarettes a day.

Today on The Metro, we’re talking to some experts and getting to know some strangers on the phones. 

Guests: 

  • Kayla Perry: Marketing and communications manager at the Detroit Area Agency on Aging. She joined us to talk about the importance of in-person conversation and community for seniors. 
  • Nick Epley: He’s a professor of behavioral science at the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business. Epley has authored numerous articles on the ways we interact with each other and he co-authored an influential study on talking to strangers that produced interesting results.

We also asked listeners:

“Are you one of those people who seeks out conversations with strangers? Or do you avoid them?”

Joe in Rochester Hills says when he talks to strangers, “You get a smiley face, you get a happy look almost always.”

Use the media player above to hear the full conversation.

More stories from The Metro on March 27, 2025: 

  • President Donald Trump announced this week that he will place 25% tariffs on auto imports — including autos coming from Canada. WDET’s All Things Considered host and Senior News Editor Russ McNamara crossed the border into Canada to find out how Windsorites are reacting to tariffs and Trump’s idea of annexing our northern neighbor.

  • A new exhibition at Detroit boutique Coup D’état is honoring the life and work of photographer Bill Rauhauser, known as “the dean of Detroit photography.” Coup D’état Owner Angela Wisniewski-Cobbina joined The Metro to discuss the exhibit, held in partnership with Hill Gallery in Birmingham.

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The Metro: Looking into the solar system with Michigan Science Center

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NASA scientists determined that Asteroid 2024 YR4 had little to no chance of hitting Earth, but the moon should watch out. 

President and CEO of the Michigan Science Center Dr. Christian Greer is no stranger to asking questions about the mechanics of the world we live in. He’s a graduate of Morehouse College with a degree in Physics and a Doctorate of Education in learning technologies from Pepperdine University.

Greer wants to share his love of science with people across the board, but especially the next generation of curious thinkers. 

Many of those young, curious thinkers spend a lot of time on social media and Youtube. Recently, the news of a possible asteroid impact on Earth in 2032 sent folks into a frenzy. Greer joins the show to let us know what’s up with asteroids and our solar system.

Use the media player above to hear the full conversation.

More stories from The Metro on Feb. 26, 2025.

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Huge cuts in National Institutes of Health research funding go before a federal judge

By LAURAN NEERGAARD and MICHAEL CASEY

BOSTON (AP) — A court battle resumed Friday over the Trump administration’s drastic cuts in medical research funding that many scientists say will endanger patients and delay new lifesaving discoveries.

A federal judge in Massachusetts temporarily blocked the cuts from taking effect earlier this month in response to separate lawsuits filed by a group of 22 states plus organizations representing universities, hospitals and research institutions nationwide.

The new National Institutes of Health policy would strip research groups of hundreds of millions of dollars to cover so-called indirect expenses of studying Alzheimer’s, cancer, heart disease and a host of other illnesses — anything from clinical trials of new treatments to basic lab research that is the foundation for discoveries. Now U.S. District Judge Angel Kelley, who was appointed by Democratic President Joe Biden, must decide whether to extend the temporary restraining order blocking those cuts.

The states and research groups say such a move is illegal, pointing to bipartisan congressional action during President Donald Trump’s first term to prohibit it.

“Yet here we are again,” attorneys argued in a court motion, saying the NIH is “in open defiance” of what Congress decreed.

Sen. Patty Murray, a Democrat from Washington state, tried unsuccessfully to block the NIH cut during an overnight Senate budget debate, saying it “violates bipartisan appropriations law. I should know, I helped author that provision. And Republicans should know – they worked with me to pass it.”

In court Friday, Trump administration attorney Brian Lea argued the issue is “broad discretion power of the executive branch” in how to allocate funds.

The administration also claims Kelley’s courtroom isn’t the proper venue to arbitrate claims of breach of contract and that states and researchers haven’t shown the cuts will cause “an irreparable injury.”

The NIH, the main funder of biomedical research, awarded about $35 billion in grants to research groups last year. The total is divided into “direct” costs – covering researchers’ salaries and laboratory supplies – and “indirect” costs, the administrative and facility costs needed to support that work.

The Trump administration had dismissed those expenses as “overhead” but universities and hospitals argue they’re far more critical. They can include such things as electricity to operate sophisticated machinery, hazardous waste disposal, staff who ensure researchers follow safety rules and janitorial workers.

Different projects require different resources. Labs that handle dangerous viruses, for example, require more expensive safety precautions than a simpler experiment. So currently each grant’s amount of indirect costs is negotiated with NIH, some of them small while others reaching 50% or more of the total grant.

If the new policy stands, indirect costs would be capped at 15% immediately, for already awarded grants and new ones. NIH calculated that would save the agency $4 billion a year.

A motion filed earlier this week cited a long list of examples of immediate harm in blue states and red states. They included the possibility of ending some clinical trials of treatments at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, that could leave “a population of patients with no viable alternative.”

Officials at Johns Hopkins University were more blunt, saying the cut would end or require significantly scaling back research projects potentially including some of the 600 NIH-funded studies open to Hopkins patients.

“The care, treatments and medical breakthroughs provided to them and their families are not ‘overhead,’” university president Ron Daniels and Hopkins Medicine CEO Theodore DeWeese wrote to employees.

Attorneys also argued the cuts would harm state economies. The University of Florida would need to cut “critical research staffing” by about 45 people, while construction of a new research facility in Detroit expected to create nearly 500 new jobs could be paused or even abandoned, they wrote.

“Implementing this 15% cap will mean the abrupt loss of hundreds of millions of dollars that are already committed to employing tens of thousands of researchers and other workers, putting a halt to countless lifesaving health research and cutting-edge technology initiatives,” the lawsuit said.

Neergaard reported from Washington.

The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Science and Educational Media Group and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. The AP is solely responsible for all content.

Medical researchers from universities and the National Institutes of Health rally near the Health and Human Services headquarters to protest federal budget cuts Wednesday, Feb. 19, 2025, in Washington. (AP Photo/John McDonnell)
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